Reader Carl K writes in today to point out an error in our book: in the crib reviews, we said Pali’s new Asian imported collections are made very similarly to their Italian/Canadian furniture (which are made of birch). Carl points out this isn’t accurate:
I just wanted to let you know that there’s a bit of misinformation in you newest book in regards to Pali brand furniture. You mentioned that they have begun producing certain of their pieces/collections in SE Asia, but you also stated that “They still maintain the brand’s quality touches (birch wood construction, dovetail drawers,…” some of which is incorrect.
I just called Pali to ask about their Wendy Collection which turns out to be made of Radiata Pine. I also asked about the Tuscan Series which they say is made of Rubberwood. Upon further questioning, the customer service rep explained that their Asian collections (the ones with names rather than numbers) are not made of the same hardwood birch as their other pieces. Important to note being that these woods are softer. Though radiata pine isn’t as soft as other types, it is still only technically considered a medium hardwood.
Secondly, while you’re correct about the dovetail drawers, I discovered that not all of their drawers are made with the wonderfully quiet and smooth glide system. Instead, some still use ball bearings which are both noisy and more loose.
Also, while Pali has always been known for the quality of their dropside cribs, their convertible cribs have exposed hardware which shows up as unsightly holes when converted into the full-sized beds.
I was about to buy a Wendy Collection 3-piece set that I found at a very good price. I’m glad I did some more research first. I really prefer those smooth glide drawers. Besides, a convertible crib makes so much more sense to me. Also, we move every 2 years or so and any type of pine, even a medium hardwood, will likely get ridiculously beat up in transit.
Of course, your book’s already printed so there’s not much you can do, but I thought you should know that some of Pali’s furniture isn’t truly living up to the quality of the company’s original reputation.
Thanks Carl. Well, our initial report on Pali was what they told us they PLANNED for their import line. It appears the actual furniture is different than what they discussed. So we will go back and take a harder look at whether Pali is cheapening their quality for their imported line.
UPDATE 7-15-08: After we posted this, Pal’s Director of Product Development, Mark Woomer, sent us an email to explain their current product line and address the complaint above.
Thanks for your time this morning to discuss our product line. I
would like to clarify some of the points in question about our
collections currently being imported from Asia. Wendy, West Point
and Carrigan are the first collections that we imported from Asia.
Our West Point and Carrigan collections have always been constructed
of Birch solids and Birch veneers from our initial shipments back in
2006 through today. We do use MDF and particle board in the
construction of our cases where necessary to ensure product quality
and competitive prices.
I would like to point out that we recently made a decision to change
Carrigan to Rubberwood solids and Birch veneers which will start with
our next shipment from Asia in August. The change to Rubberwood was
made due to increasing material prices in Asia due to a weak dollar,
oil prices and upcoming California formaldehyde level requirements
for composite wood products.
The Wendy collection has always been made of Radiatta Pine from the
initial shipment back in 2006 through today. It was never our
intention to lead consumers to believe that this collection was made
of Birch. In fact, the Pine wood grain is obvious especially in our
Distressed Amber finish. Radiatta Pine was selected from the very
beginning in order to meet our target retails for the Wendy collection.
Our Tuscan and Arezzo collections are made of Rubberwood solids and
Rubberwood veneers. It is important to note that Rubberwood is as
hard as Maple or Ash. Rubberwood is also one of the best sources of
sustainably harvested wood species as it is used for latex production
during it’s 30-year life cycle and later is harvested as a source for
furniture manufacturing. Our Rubberwood supply is also responsibly
harvested within a 500-mile radius of our factories which is key to
minimizing our impact on the environment.
With regards to the drawer glides, we did have at least two
production runs where the factory that produced our Wendy collection
used a sub-standard drawer glide. We have since corrected this
problem and our most recent production implemented an improved drawer
glide that is similar to our Canadian production. Our Tuscan and
Arezzo collections are using an even higher-end, self-closing drawer
glide system. As much as we would like to use the self-closing
drawer glide on all of our collections it is simply not cost-
effective for us at this point in time.
I want to clarify that our convertible cribs produced in Asia do not
have exposed hardware. This would include Wendy, West Point,
Carrigan, Tuscan and Arezzo convertible cribs. The misunderstanding
may have been with our convertible cribs that continue to be
manufactured at our plant in Italy. Our Italian produced convertible
cribs do have exposed hardware.
I hope that this helps to clarify any questions or concerns, your
readers may have about our product. It is important to all of us at
Pali that our customers are not only satisfied, but confident in
their purchase of a Pali product. If there are any other points that
I can help to clarify, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Mark Woomer
Director of Product Development
Pali Design, Inc.
I just wanted to respond to the guy who wrote about Pali’s quality. I purchased my Pali Tuscan crib, dresser, armoire, 5 drawer and night stand from the Petite Elite in Tampa, FL and I absolutely love it. The drawers are very smooth and the finish is a beautiful medium tone stain, which is now the trendy look. I have hardwood floors in my baby’s room and everyone has told me how stunning my nursery looks. I looked at many different manufacturer’s and chose Pali’s Asian made Tuscan group because my husband and I thought it was the best quality for the price. Finally, Pali has been around for a very long time and many of my girlfreinds had Pali furniture. ALL of my girlfreinds that have children now 5-7years old, said I will want to change the entire room by the time Steven turns 4 or 5 because he will have his own little personality and I will be totally sick of his room by then and want to completely change it. I know me, and this is probably going to be true, so I don’t need furniture to last until college because it probably won’t make it to first grade….LOL.
Anyway, I’m happy my husband left all of the nursery decisions up to me. It’s not that he didn’t care, it’s just he knows it’s more important to me than to him.
I hope this little rant helps someone because I couldn’t be more happy than I am with my Pali furniture.
Best regards,
Samantha P
I just wanted to respond to the guy who wrote about Pali’s quality. I purchased my Pali Tuscan crib, dresser, armoire, 5 drawer and night stand from the Petite Elite in Tampa, FL and I absolutely love it. The drawers are very smooth and the finish is a beautiful medium tone stain, which is now the trendy look. I have hardwood floors in my baby’s room and everyone has told me how stunning my nursery looks. I looked at many different manufacturer’s and chose Pali’s Asian made Tuscan group because my husband and I thought it was the best quality for the price. Finally, Pali has been around for a very long time and many of my girlfreinds had Pali furniture. ALL of my girlfreinds that have children now 5-7years old, said I will want to change the entire room by the time Steven turns 4 or 5 because he will have his own little personality and I will be totally sick of his room by then and want to completely change it. I know me, and this is probably going to be true, so I don’t need furniture to last until college because it probably won’t make it to first grade….LOL.
Anyway, I’m happy my husband left all of the nursery decisions up to me. It’s not that he didn’t care, it’s just he knows it’s more important to me than to him.
I hope this little rant helps someone because I couldn’t be more happy than I am with my Pali furniture.
Best regards,
Samantha P
Hi there!
I was so happy to find your recent blog posting about Pali cribs. We are expecting our first child in December and are shopping for our first crib. Time is short and we’re close to making a decision! We want a crib that has NO MDF or particleboard, and hopefully no veneers, as well as water-based finish, so Pali was at the top of our list.
But I was wondering if you could help to clarify something from Mark Woomer’s posting. When he says the following:
“…We do use MDF and particle board in the construction of our cases where necessary to ensure product quality and competitive prices.”
What are “cases”? Is he referring just to dressers, hutches and bookshelves, or cribs too? It’s not worth it to pay Pali crib prices if they’ve got MDF!
Thanks!
J.A.
Hi there!
I was so happy to find your recent blog posting about Pali cribs. We are expecting our first child in December and are shopping for our first crib. Time is short and we’re close to making a decision! We want a crib that has NO MDF or particleboard, and hopefully no veneers, as well as water-based finish, so Pali was at the top of our list.
But I was wondering if you could help to clarify something from Mark Woomer’s posting. When he says the following:
“…We do use MDF and particle board in the construction of our cases where necessary to ensure product quality and competitive prices.”
What are “cases”? Is he referring just to dressers, hutches and bookshelves, or cribs too? It’s not worth it to pay Pali crib prices if they’ve got MDF!
Thanks!
J.A.
Luckily my wife left the nursery furniture up to me, we might have ended up with Minure if she had chosen.
I purchased the Pali Marina crib and dressers/nightstands in Onyx.
Pieces arrived on time as promised without damage.(a change from other brands)
Our daughter is now 3 and at the toddler bed stage of this crib. There is not a single mark of wear on anything. A solid structure and quality pieces.
Stick with Pali